The Most Fervent Believer May Need Help In His Unbelief

by Karl Loren

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After traveling a journey of some 30 years, preaching the gospel of the evils of slash, burn and poison technology, what do you think of your hero, Karl Loren, and heroine, Jean Ross, when they choose conventional treatment for her esophagus cancer -- chose the very slash, burn and poison that they have so denounced for so many years?

That story has now been told in the hundreds of pages that led you and us to here!

You should never feel guilty for wondering if alternative therapy will really work!  If you are new to "alternative therapies" you should also not feel guilty about distrusting conventional therapy.  It is YOUR body, not that belonging to another.  Whatever you choose is a very personal decision and no one should fault you for it -- that is how I have changed in these past several months.  I have come to understand conventional treatments far more intimately than I ever thought I would.  (The photo was taken on August 24, 2004.)

If there is anything you can say about man, it is that he doubts himself, and certainly doubts his divinity!  He exists in a swirl of conflicting and fabricated data and fitfully picks a piece here and there to "believe in" or "try out."  But, in the end he fails - because, is it not true, he dies!

Death is the final proof of failure!

For now (!), Jean has just been tested as having NO TRACE OF CANCER!

The success which is reported on these pages COULD be claimed as a victory for conventional therapy.  I am certain our oncologist, Dr. Arzoo, would so claim.  In fact, his technology allows him to look at every smidgen of data along our path and say, "Of course, this is what you should expect.  Your "recovery" is exactly as I DID predict for you.  Of course, you are now sitting in the lull before the storm of returning cancer.  Your ONLY possible hope for further survival is to take more radiation and chemo.  Remember that the statistics show that 100% of the people who ever have had cancer of the esophagus have died of cancer of the esophagus -- soon or late!"

The oncologist, of course, is a source of victory in the form of painful death -- thus the image above.

The success COULD also be claimed as a victory exclusively because of the alternative remedies which we used.  I do not intend to criticize those who are pure, allow no drugs to pass their lips, and pursue the herbal path.  Remember that every person who puts 100% of his trust in these alternative forms of treatment -- dies!  (eventually)

The success COULD be claimed for the combination of conventional and alternative therapies -- we would claim that, but only partly, even.  The "cause of the miracle" is much more complex than I've written so far.  It is very much like the "puzzle of life" that I wrote about years ago -- here and excerpted below.

The young lad was weeping and wailing when the traveler came along.

What’s happening? asked the traveler.

Oh, said the young lad, my teacher says I have to figure out this puzzle or I can’t pass the course!

The traveler gazed down on the puzzle. There was a large number of marbles, many sizes and different colors – all mixed up. It looked like quite some confusion to him.

The traveler said, What’s the course?

Oh, said the lad, the course is LIFE!

Interesting, said the traveler to himself. To the lad he said, What’s the puzzle?

Said the lad, the puzzle is to bring order out of chaos!

A very worthy puzzle, thought the traveler! What tools has your teacher given you to solve this puzzle? he said.

He didn’t, the lad said. My teacher just tells me that I have to figure it out. He told me that order and chaos exist in constant conflict, and that I must solve the puzzle or die.

They just ARE that way, he told me. They exist and one’s purpose in life is to solve the puzzle of life!

My goodness, thought the traveler, I’ve found the puzzle of life in the hands of a lad with no tools!

How many times, in life, have you been confused and didn’t even know what the question was, much less the answer?

How many times have you discovered, after many years, that the puzzle couldn’t be solved, or that the teacher asked you the wrong question, or that the puzzle wasn’t worth the time spent?

We certainly don’t lack for dragons to slay – we don’t lack for marbles of many colors in our society! What tools have you been given to solve the chaos of modern life?

When you watch television one of the marbles you’ll see is the hundreds of millions of dollars to promote different pain killers. You might wonder which is the best one? Is that the right question?

Now is NOT the time to start studying different pain killers! That is NOT the puzzle of life, nor even a marble worth worrying about. Far better, it would be, to understand the concept of pain, itself. Is this something that should be killed?

This issue of Viewpointbrings you a philosophical look at the power and simplicity of a viewpoint!  Click on the link to get the answer to the puzzle of life, and even to the puzzle of "what has been the cause of the report:  'No Trace Of Cancer' for Jean.

You'll notice that there are no villains here? The Oncologist was doing what he thought was right.  The Radiation doctor was doing what he thought was right.  The surgeon was doing what he thought was right.  The insurance company (HMO) was doing what it thought was right.  It would take a drastic change in many laws before any of them could be called a criminal -- they worked within a system.

If you would change the system, you will need to confront the fact that you must change the individual -- because the great bulk of humanity is looking for a magic pill and wants something for nothing.  Thus, the concept of health insurance is surely a villain, here, but it is a creation of the people -- man has to change before society can change.  Society must change before the system can change.

I have alluded to our spiritual faith.  You don't have to belong to any particular religion, you can belong to any of many, and feel that your faith is the exclusive or partial reason for a victory such as this.  For instance, read here about the power of prayer.

Prayer!  What passes for religion now days?  There are some in our society who have made marijuana a religion, and their cure, even for cancer.  Can this be so?  Just as the Hospice told us, "We will give you enough pain killers, even morphine, to be sure you do not die in pain!"  (The image on the left is from a "prayer" that gives marijuana as 'god' if not 'God!' See more on this here.  The hospice has its place, had its place in our lives, but we have moved on -- grateful for the experience, eager for the next.

Literally thousands of my friends have been praying for Jean -- it would be foolish to dismiss all that!  There may well be, also, OTHER forms of spiritual aide we have employed!  Each person chooses (or not) his own way!

You could also conclude that Karl's brilliance at researching both conventional and alternative therapies, and probably his firmness at "managing" the insurance and medical systems -- these were the explanation.  How about Karl's "Protocol" for the continuing treatment of Jean?  Click here for Karl's prediction and plan for the next 12 months -- treatments for Jean and for himself (hip replacement, etc.)

The role of the "care-giver" should not be neglected.  Many the poor patient have we seen, sitting by herself, or himself, in a doctor's waiting room -- without any friend nearby.  And, we've seen the "old woman" in the chemo chair, being pumped full of toxic substances, but with a daughter, or granddaughter sitting by her side.  If a study were ever done, those with cancer who had a loving and attentive care-giver would fare far better than those lonely soles who have nothing but the pill and needle!

There are several pages on this web that refer to the "care-giver."  Click here to see references to them.

There could even be other reasons -- and finally, our euphoria about the success COULD even be misplaced.  Jean might develop rapidly growing cancer tomorrow and die next Tuesday.

This eminent doom would be the usual position of the Oncologist, when presented with the GOOD NEWS which Jean had from the PET scan that showed no trace of cancer.

If there is anything certain about these bodies we inhabit, it is the uncertainty and shortness of life.

Everyone who has lived on this planet has died, and all who now so live, will die -- excepting Christ Himself.  So the many billions of mortals have all died -- and the most common causes of death in Western society currently are heart disease and cancer.

Years ago I asked my minister, "You say that God helps those who help themselves.  But, how much should you expect to help yourself and how much do you ask God to do?"  He had no answer for that -- nor do I.

I have written extensively about these maladies, and exposed many lies about them, and proposed many very effective alternatives to the drug and knife approach of modern medicine.

Yet, only some thousands really explore the alternatives while the millions go down the path of tradition and die in ignorance of what might have been.

Yet, those who choose various alternative paths also, eventually die.

We have a vast empire of "facts" built into a system of belief in traditional medicine -- when someone preaches about the alternatives it may often be true that he has NOT faced the grim reality on a very personal level?

We have!

My feelings on this matter have changed during these past several months.

The changes are not so opposed to what I have always preached, but they may seem to be, so this brief note for you.

When you "believe" in alternative therapies, yet come face to face with YOUR need to do or not do them -- as Jean did, you should not be faulted for whatever choice you make.

A child accepts "truth" from the parent -- and in your need for hope and help, who do you trust to advise you?  Jean, faced with esophagus cancer, with a statistic of less than a 20% chance of survival for 2 years, and with the advice of our most trusted physician ringing in our ears, opted for "conventional treatment long enough to shrink the cancer, then continue and increase the number of alternative remedies we would use!"

We followed that path -- it worked!  My own personal "thirty years of research in this area" was not enough to persuade me to "go 100% natural!"  It may well be enough for you to accept my advice, but I still suggest that you have a very personal decision to make -- who do you trust?

I, personally, have become a much more powerful voice of help and health from having taken this journey.  Was it the right journey for us?  I will not look back to even try to doubt our answer -- it IS the journey we took -- and we have arrived here, where we are now, with a remarkable change from the beginning condition.   The entire story is laid out -- no detail is spared.  Read it all -- take the hundreds of hours it took ME to publish, not to mention the thousands of hours of research and thought.  Jean can certainly advise about this journey from a powerful perspective of personal experience.

The big question for us about the doctor's advice was always, "When do we know what is enough conventional therapy to say, stop!??' "  Our doctor could not answer that for us and I cannot answer it for you.

But, I can write and have written our story -- I urge you to read it all, and take whatever inspiration or hope you can from it.

The State Of Clear

I've mentioned, here and there, the matter of "mistakes" in our judgment along this journey.  People have written to me, saying things like, "Well, Karl don't you wish you hadn't made this or that decision along this journey?"

(The photo of Jean was taken on August 24, 2004.)

The answer is NO.  I have no regrets for any decision we have made.  That applies specifically to the decision to seek conventional therapy, the further decision to stop that, the continuing decisions on using alternative therapies, and even the decision which I supported when Jean said she was ready to die!

Those were rational decisions, AT THE TIME, BASED ON THE DATA WE HAD.

Within my own spiritual philosophy Jean and I have each achieved a status called "clear."  My own definition of "clear" includes this:

A "Clear" does not make mistakes because of past trauma and upset -- he does not have irrational emotional reactions to situations, but is capable of making logical decisions based on the data he has and based on his understanding of the words contained in that data and in the situation.

(The photo of Karl was taken on August 24, 2004.)

When I "look back" at some of those decisions I can only look back with the added experience of having lived through that period.  Both Jean and I lacked data (experience) on the horrors of chemo and radiation.  When we made the decision to go ahead with chemo and radiation it was absolutely the best decision based on the data we had.  That data included the advice of a trusted friend -- our family physician for more than 25 years.

Today we cannot put ourselves back at that time because today we have a great deal of added information -- we have the experience.  I have also added to my knowledge because of my research during the past several months.

So, there is no room for blame, shame or regret in our universe.  Jean and I are "clears" within our religious philosophy -- that philosophy helps people attain the state of "clear."  I accept that I have the ability to make rational decisions, not influenced by the type of junk which affects most people -- that junk has been "cleared away" for me.  When Jean made the decision that she would rather die than continue as she was then going, we then, and now, feel that was exactly the right decision -- based on what we knew at that time.

Can a "Clear" get angry?

You bet!  When the SITUATION calls for anger, the Clear has no trouble showing that emotion.  That anger, however, does not linger in him to color future behavior.  The person who is not Clear often gets angry at the cat because of some past crazy event that has nothing to do with the present time, or the cat.

Can I make mistakes?

Certainly!

Can I change?

Certainly!

Will the decisions I make tomorrow be different from the ones I made today?

Most probably!

All it takes to make a mistake is wrong data, missing data, wrong definitions for words, and several other "wrongnesses" that I could explain in detail to you.  That is why I am so keen on research -- and urge you to do the same.  "Words?"  I cannot stress enough how being "Clear" has helped me detect "words" that are used to deceive -- I've written about this -- one of my most philosophical of writings -- here.

Many people make mistakes because they are stuck in a compulsion of acting the way "mother" did, or acting in some certain way because of some crazy thing from a long-ago incident that is affecting them, unknown to themselves.

A "clear" has erased away these past crazy reasons for crazy thought and behavior -- but a "clear" can certainly lack data and make a decision that does not lead him the way he wants to go.

So, Jean and I had strong intentions to go in certain directions -- often we didn't go in the chosen direction.  The reason would always be that we lacked the proper data to make a good decision, or we lacked the proper data to make our intentions turn into reality.

We have each become more powerful and more knowledgeable because of this journey of both experience and study.

Today, August 19, 2004, is our day of liberation.

Jean went through the conventional treatments up to the point where she said, "I would rather die that have more chemo or radiation."  That was not an intellectual or theoretical decision -- it came from the gut and heart!  But, because we are each "clear" that decision was rational and right, at that time, based on the data we had.  One can ALWAYS get more and better data, but decisions are often called for without full data.  You decide on the basis of what you know now.

If and when you are faced with similar circumstances would you have decided what we decided?  How about NOW, now that you have read these words and have new viewpoints?  Thousands, millions, would never have gone that path!  It will be a very personal decision for you when and if you face this journey.

After the bad news seemed worst, but she had a glimmer of hope for surgery, she was told by the surgeon, Dr. Renner, that she "was not a candidate for surgery but that if he did it, she had about a 5% chance of survival, following 11 hours of surgery and 30 days in ICU,"  Jean was not only ready to die, but she quickly got accepted into a Hospice and we actively planned her death and funeral!

It seemed at the time that his prognosis was just wrong!  In other words, the data we had to operate on seemed wrong, but there hardly seemed any time to look for new and better data.  But, it came at a time when things looked terrible -- so his comment was enough to drive her into the Hospice.  Now that we look back, and have new data, his opinion was obviously very wrong -- since Jean is now eager for, and very much a candidate for, the same surgery for which he said, "no go!"  So, you can change the circumstances just by YOU having new data and a new viewpoint.

That was about the bottom.  If you have read these pages, you shared those moments with us -- you can go back and share them now.  Those days and nights are still a poignant part of our life.  It also brought us closer!  No matter how much closer she was to death, neither Jean nor I grieved.  That is still hard for others to understand, and perhaps very few ever will -- but we both understood that viewpoint.  The image above portrays that well, I think.   There is a bleak surrounding, but there is also a bright new day soon here.

As the time away from the dreaded chemo and radiation increased, Jean started to feel better -- and one day, near July 1, 2004, she decided NOT to die.

That was an important turning point in this journey also.

There was a tiny bit of embarrassment involved.  More or less on June 23rd Jean decided that it would be OK to leave this life on or about June 30th, our 30th wedding anniversary.  We announced that to friends, and, of course, they flocked here to say "good by."  Then, on July 1st, she was feeling pretty good and making plans for "next week."  Well, those same friends may have come one more time, but some have never returned.  Is it that "approaching death removes all barriers from communication?  and now that she is back to some semblance of "normal" these people visit just as often, or as little, as they did in "normal times?"

But, then, even as today, she could not swallow and altogether she has not been able to eat or even swallow for several months.

Now that she was feeling better, the possibility of never swallowing was impossible to contemplate.

I've written about the medical solution I saw for this -- it involved getting a PET scan to assure a doctor, and ourselves, that a routine method of enlarging the esophagus would be safe.

That test was today, Thursday, August 19, 2004.

As we approached this date, we knew that the usual oncologist would say that the chances of eliminating the cancer, even with a full range of traditional treatment, were nil. After all, a 20% chance of survival for two years had been changed, for Jean to a 5% survival chance.

So, no matter how many alternative remedies we used, no matter how many hundreds, even thousands of pages I had published about alternative therapies, could we approach the PET scan with 100% certainty the cancer was gone??  How does the PET scan work?  CLICK HERE for a detailed explanation on that subject.

Deep in her heart probably lurked at least some worry.

Jean's heart?  Who is to say what thoughts go through your head when the masses of conventional wisdom say that alternative therapy won't work and that you are going to die from this esophagus cancer.

So, the PET scan was done at 1 PM, today, Thursday, August 19th.  Jean felt buoyant -- and we went to a restaurant to celebrate BEFORE we got the results!

She still couldn't swallow, but we still celebrated.

Then we went to our Primary Care Physician's office -- the PET scan doctor had sent the results to him to give to us.

The PET scan found no trace of cancer!

The fact that both of us were pleased is some sign that we were also a bit surprised -- if our certainty had been absolute, then we would not have needed this confirmation from a conventional type test.

I have placed the actual PET scan report HERE.

We did want it -- and I make no excuses for the fact that we were very pleased.

Surprises?  Well, no, but, still, pleased!

So, Jean has traveled this path -- heavy conventional treatments for some months, and even heavier use of several different alternative remedies -- we have arrived at today, free of cancer.

Oh!  The oncologist would say, if we cared to listen to him, that, "You are never cured of cancer -- it might be in remission, but it will come back.  What you should do is get some more chemo and radiation to make sure!"

We will not be traveling again on that part of the path.

Perhaps it took the pain and despair caused by chemo and radiation for Jean to foreswear them for any future use, and to be so certain about THAT, but however we have arrived at today, this is a very fine day.

Free of cancer!

No trace-- with the most sensitive testing technique popularly used -- the PET scan.  The only thing more sensitive is the biopsy and we will be getting some of those soon!!!!

What will we do now? 

Well, she still cannot swallow -- so the proposed treatment, by now well and firmly insisted on by me, is to visit each of two GI doctors, show them the PET scan results, other medical records and ask for their opinions on how to open up that blockage.

We will surely also seek out a different surgeon -- one less pessimistic than the last one -- and see about cutting that remaining mass out!

However we move ahead, we will certainly continue to lay on those alternative therapies -- for this is NOT the time to decide that all is finished.

The oncologists say, "It may still be lurking" for good cause -- it is not unknown that someone THINKS they are cured of cancer only to have "IT" come back -- months or even years later.

As confident as we are that the cancer is completely gone, we are still faced with the truth that all people die -- and that death comes most often from heart disease and cancer.

We do know, however, that we had a hand in beating off this cancer attack.

We can't say that the chemo and radiation were worthless -- they may have been "worse than death," but then without them death may well have overcome us before any alternative could be helpful.

We do not look back and wonder if we made all the right turns, or could have traveled differently -- we traveled the path we traveled -- you may well read, wonder and travel a very different path.

But, our future is now very different -- because a simple standard treatment PET scan confirmed our hope/belief that Jean is free of cancer.

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